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Religion??Fact or Fiction??
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| mzapanta | Date: Tuesday, 25/11/2008, 9:22:52 PM | Message # 81 |
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| uu.. no argument man jud ko, agree ko ani.. for the purpose of continuity lang.. hehe sige go: hmm..
Quote (remive4u) u r afraid to doubt...
mura ra gud na ug room setting...nglibog ka..or..kbw ka gmay, pwo hadlok ka mgpaclarify... none of the above. ani nalang. whole akong faith ni God (without doubt jud). and maybe sa future naay nahan mu-prove otherwise or try to destroy my faith, we'll see what happens then. we'll see.
pero karon, maka-ingon ko na without doubt jud.. maybe individuality lang ni nato tanan. katong religion, since doubting belief to so to speak.. i don't have it anymore, nawagtang ra tungod sa doubt.
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| remive4u | Date: Wednesday, 26/11/2008, 7:31:36 PM | Message # 82 |
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| nxt topic:  worshipping/praising/adoring images of saints or jesus christ, is idolatry or not?..
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| kalpot | Date: Wednesday, 26/11/2008, 7:39:14 PM | Message # 83 |
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| idolatry... 
I melt every time you look at me that way.. 
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| remive4u | Date: Thursday, 27/11/2008, 7:21:46 PM | Message # 84 |
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| idolatry jud...hehe
nya yaw ko ingna wa kbw ang church na idolatry na?.. 
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| mzapanta | Date: Friday, 28/11/2008, 4:24:02 AM | Message # 85 |
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kahibaw siguro oy. di man na sila bogo..
hm, siguro kay kaning mga tangible things kay pwede ma object of commerce (?) sayang pud ang revenue, sikat baya kaayo ang church.
hehe.
Message edited by mzapanta - Friday, 28/11/2008, 4:24:19 AM |
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| remive4u | Date: Saturday, 29/11/2008, 12:36:05 PM | Message # 86 |
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| so, coz ila gigamit pra revenue ang images of saints evn tho they knw that it is wrong...
does that make them legit in evn preaching & teaching?..
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| mzapanta | Date: Sunday, 30/11/2008, 1:43:59 PM | Message # 87 |
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i wouldn't know. if they say they're legit, i say they're entitled to their own opinion.
just to check, unsa man ilang gi-teach.. self-less love? hehehehe. chur oy.
mura ra gud og empire battles.
lisod kaayo kontrahon ang ing-ana ka strong og kadato na fortress.
so kung kinsa to ang powerful.. mao ra pud to ang magbo-ot2x, maghari2x. ang di lang nako ma-gets kay kanang ila i-preach - we are the only way, the only truth.. and the only.. something2x.
of course kani nga spiel appealing kaayo ni sa questioning soul.
Message edited by mzapanta - Sunday, 30/11/2008, 1:44:17 PM |
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| remive4u | Date: Sunday, 30/11/2008, 8:40:15 PM | Message # 88 |
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| di nmn cgwo na opinion ila...
if they're leading many to hu knws wer...
dat is no longer opinion...
pwo, kato motuo...
its their freedom...hehe
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| jrans1987 | Date: Tuesday, 02/12/2008, 9:49:40 AM | Message # 89 |
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| apil ko ha ... ehehheh ... kanang idolatry nang mga images og mga statue sa church
idolatry djud na cya pero ... wala man ni ana ang mga pari nga " uuuyyy guys worship
mo sa statue ni jesus or ni mama mary ... dba ? wala man cla ni anah nga mao na inyong
e.worship ... the statue and images in the church only represents the person or kato nga
person meaning ilang ra gipakita ang hitsura or nawng anah nga person ... pero wala cla
nag sulti nga e.praise ang statue anah nga person ... kung di ang person mismo mao e.praise
so para nako wala ni promote ang simbahan og idolatry .... 
Talk slow but think fast ....
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| remive4u | Date: Tuesday, 02/12/2008, 10:33:20 AM | Message # 90 |
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| but placing images in the so-called house of God is already promoting people to pray to them...
a.k.a. idolatry...
if the bible is their creed and manual, then they knw that it is idolatry, and still they are tolerating it...
wudn't that be hypocritical?..
promoting something that goes agenst the grain of ur teachings?..
clearly enuf, they did not say anything saying to people that they must praise the images sa church...
but it is also clear that they did not say anything as to what is the purpose of those images...
for me lng ah..
they don't want to disclaim that it is not right to praise/worship images/religious paraphernalia...
coz for one main reason...
it's a very productive source of revenue...
i dnt want to judge the church or anything...
but teaching salvation, and yet leading many to nowhere,
is a one step forward-two step back trend...
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| jrans1987 | Date: Tuesday, 02/12/2008, 3:19:41 PM | Message # 91 |
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| yup2x you have a point dong .. let me just share this story about that
naa toy tao nga nangutana sa pari ... father nanu naa man statue sa church
dba bawal na cya kay naa sa 10 commandments ? kbw ka unsay gi reply sa pari ?
ana ra cya nga if imong e.think nga sala na cya then sala djud na ... gi butang na
ang mga statue dha dli para imong e.praise directly ang statue kung di representation
rana cya ... meaning mura gud kung mag chat ka ... if di ka kbw sa nawng sa tao nga imong
ka chat den walay ka padolngan ang inyong gi storya.an kay wala man ka kbw kung knsa na
cya or what he/she looks like ... so gi butang na ang mga statue para kbw mo nga mao na
ang nawng sa saint's nga inyong gi praise ...
Talk slow but think fast ....
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| manueli2 | Date: Tuesday, 02/12/2008, 7:41:32 PM | Message # 92 |
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| ani raman nah oh.. RELIGION is the excuse of man to do good.. \m/(^__^)\m/
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| -CHiC- | Date: Wednesday, 03/12/2008, 9:19:55 AM | Message # 93 |
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| Religion is part of our culture na man..its been passed from generation to generation..
miskan unsaon nimo pag ingon nga di ka mutoo, mag doubt sad bya japon ka..nay part
sa imo nga di ka ka deny nga mutoo jpon ka og religion oi... 
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| remive4u | Date: Wednesday, 03/12/2008, 8:40:02 PM | Message # 94 |
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| wa man ko ng-imply na those hu are praising them, are sinners man..hehe
wat i was trying to say man ky y put it there man?..
representation?...
representation to wat?..
saints?..
wat are saints?..
human hu did xtraordinary things for their religion...
or so say the church...[church npod...hehehe]
hu vindicated their actions?...
the church...[church npod..hehe]
hu gave them the moniker of saints?..
the church...
did God, told them to?..or did they have the divine intervention of God?..
ani lng ba...
their teachings stated that the Church is the house of God, brought by Christ to the world...
if so, y put things which represent someone/something they named as saints?..
are they God??or Christ?..it's like tainting the once clear picture...
awa ra gud...
luk at the trend nowadays sa Christianity...
more and more saints are appearing out of nowhere...
they pop out like soap suds...for wat purpose?...
there are saints for a "safe trip", saints for "pets", saints for "harvest", saints for "rain"..
the list goes on and on...
familiar ang trend?..murag mythology sa?..hehe
for me, saints are not credible, and in this case, not even worthy to be placed in the house of God...
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| -CHiC- | Date: Thursday, 04/12/2008, 12:01:00 PM | Message # 95 |
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| mao sad jud..sakto jud ka rey..
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| jrans1987 | Date: Friday, 05/12/2008, 9:26:54 AM | Message # 96 |
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| ah ... hahahha mao d ai na .. la koy na koyy ma say dong murag na hurot na nimo ...
hahahhaha
Talk slow but think fast ....
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| -CHiC- | Date: Friday, 05/12/2008, 1:15:59 PM | Message # 97 |
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| anah...daog na rey sa debate..hehehe
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| mzapanta | Date: Saturday, 06/12/2008, 11:10:33 AM | Message # 98 |
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| basta wa koy paki sa religion.. kato ra ang mga faithful maoy mga idol nako.
Message edited by mzapanta - Saturday, 06/12/2008, 11:11:10 AM |
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| kalpot | Date: Saturday, 06/12/2008, 1:32:23 PM | Message # 99 |
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| ang mka influence sa tao jud kay ang iyang heredity... environment... and culture.. bata pa gali pa tuohon kung kinsa dapat e praise..
mao ni mao na.. sakto ni sayop na.... maong di jud magkasinabot ang tao bsta relegion ang hisgutan.. each individuals man gud naa gi tuohan or naa prinsipyo..
and walay tao nga makabuot nato about ana! kay ato mana..
I melt every time you look at me that way..
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| taong_grasa | Date: Tuesday, 23/12/2008, 2:43:35 AM | Message # 100 |
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| FICTION... superstition... god doesnt exists
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