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Religion??Fact or Fiction??
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| remive4u | Date: Wednesday, 19/11/2008, 7:59:09 PM | Message # 61 |
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| naa lng ko ishare na nkanndot sa bible..hehe
bsag unxa ka-broad ang bible...
all in all, connected ra tanan...
genealogy ni ni Adam:[mga names sa family tree ni Adam with specific meaning in English]
adam=man
seth=appointed
enosh=mortal
kenan=sorrow
mahalel=the blessed god
jared=shall come down
enoch=teaching
methuselah=his death shall bring
lamech=the despairing
noah=rest/comfort kng imo isumpay tanan meanings u get:
man (is) appointed mortal sorrow, (but) the blessed god shall come down teaching (that) His death shall bring
(the) despairing rest/comfort... ang genealogy ni Adam is found in the Old testament (Genesis)...ang mga meanings is lyk ang prediction na maabot c Jesus...
kta mo sa conexion bet. the Old testament and New testament?..and to think, Genesis is 200+yrs older than the New Testament...
it was written 200+ yrs before Jesus even came...
share lng ko sa mga infos..hehe
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Message edited by remive4u - Wednesday, 19/11/2008, 8:01:30 PM |
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| jrans1987 | Date: Thursday, 20/11/2008, 2:34:59 AM | Message # 62 |
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^ wow krn pa ko ani dong da .. heheheh
dugaya gud d ai nahitabo ... heeheheh
Talk slow but think fast ....
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| remive4u | Date: Thursday, 20/11/2008, 2:32:51 PM | Message # 63 |
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| pwo mas dghan jud discrepancies sa bible...hehe
regarding sa teachings sa church krn na "Holy Trinity"..
God in 3 forms..
God the Father, God the Son, & God the Holy Spirit...
di jud ko motuo ana...hehe
nya wat bout this:
"The Saviour used to love Miryam [of Magdala] more than other women, for he used to kiss her often on the [mouth]...and the disciples said to one another, Does the Saviour love her more than us?" ----from: The Coptic Gospel of Phillip, discovered at Nag Hammadi in Egypt in 1945
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Message edited by remive4u - Thursday, 20/11/2008, 3:17:26 PM |
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| mzapanta | Date: Friday, 21/11/2008, 5:46:40 AM | Message # 64 |
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omigosh.
ka-intrigero aning philip oy. OT:
okay, naay daghan nindot (and inspiring stuff) ang bible.. sakto..
kay siguro.. ang mga bati og ang mga makadaot wa man gi-apil og publish! (gipang-tago-an siguro)
kato rang flowery words ang naapil og print (or suwat) para ganahan pud ang mga mupalit or mubasa..
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| remive4u | Date: Saturday, 22/11/2008, 2:02:31 PM | Message # 65 |
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| tanan writings sa gospel..
were once coptic gospels...
coptic in a sense ky they were written, apart from the "Church" at that time..
tago2 ra ang pg-suwat nla..
nya wen the time came na, nglibog ang mga taw under their empire...
ang "Church", decided to make something that will put them back on their stables...
gicollect nla mga coptic gospels...
filtered it...putting only those who agreed to their ideals...
mao toh..nahimo ang bible... 
search nnU ang Dead Sea Scrolls...
they were once a flaming issue when it was discovered,
ky tanan that were written on those scrolls..
essentially contradicted those of the "Church"...
after a year or so...no one evr heard of it agen..
nwla mga scrolls...it was last seen sa library sa Vatican...
nya we all knw, di ka kasulod sa Vatican without scrutiny..
so bye2 natoh na mga scrolls..hehe
for good?..hope not...
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| mint18_angel | Date: Saturday, 22/11/2008, 4:57:23 PM | Message # 66 |
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| "Isn't it interesting... religious behavior is so close to being crazy that we can't tell them apart." Familiar huh?
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| remive4u | Date: Saturday, 22/11/2008, 5:54:24 PM | Message # 67 |
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| kana ra pod cgwo extremist..hehe
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| mint18_angel | Date: Saturday, 22/11/2008, 6:18:27 PM | Message # 68 |
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| hahhahahaha.... mao jud... sos kahibaw mo guys... when u talk about religion its all about faith and trust to what u believe in..... trusting with no ABSOLUTE EVIDENCE and because of that u will receive a great reward....
Perseverance does not equal worthiness
Message edited by mint18_angel - Saturday, 22/11/2008, 6:52:06 PM |
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| johanna_men | Date: Saturday, 22/11/2008, 7:32:25 PM | Message # 69 |
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kung mag basa ko imo gipang post glen dili jud ko mu tu-o na 79 ang gi grado ni neri nimo..
hehehehe!!! topic:
iyahay man ta religion.. iyahay ta ug beliefs.. dili ma likayan ang mga "fill in the blanks" sa kada religion.. pero in the end, dili na man mu matter kung unsa imo religion or kung kinsa imo gi worship.. it's how you live your life inspiring people to do what is good, right or just...
to dream and wake up that they all have come true...
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| remive4u | Date: Saturday, 22/11/2008, 8:31:31 PM | Message # 70 |
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| broad kau mo uie..hehe
let's just point out the factual inaccuracies, the glaring discrepancies..hehe
wa manjud mkglalis na we all hav our own belifs...
wa mai mkaforce sa usa ka-taw na motuo or dli...
wai mkasulti sa usa ka-taw na saup imong gituohan...
let's just argue on the substantials...hehe
like, ang bible...image worship...mga things for prayer e.g. rosary,cross, etc..
dba it clearly stated that u cnnot in any way worship images?..
dat is idolatry...
wat say u?
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| mzapanta | Date: Saturday, 22/11/2008, 8:43:43 PM | Message # 71 |
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| on belief..
how can you believe in something that you're not even sure of..
when you believe something, you accept is as something genuine or real.
nya ang Church, genuine? hm.. ilang ingon genuine DAW. pagawas kuno tanan sekreto beh.. hehehe.. on trusting with no absolute evidence..
how is this even possible..? (hehe.. nice ni diri dah, makat-on ko.. hehe)
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| remive4u | Date: Saturday, 22/11/2008, 9:01:48 PM | Message # 72 |
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| belief doesn't necessarily imply that u hav no doubts...
doubts make ur belief genuine..
mura gud na mistakes, makes us human...
on trusting without absolute evidence..
that is fallacious...
wat do u trust wen u cnt evn justify the objct of ur trust??..
absurd kaau...
mao those who are self-justified faithful, are afraid to be questioned..
ky they cnt pruv their faith...
they dnt want to ask questions, ky they cnt answer them...
they dnt want to talk to those who are in doubt, coz they cnt help erase those doubts.. blik ta sa substantials...
lisud argue bout faith...hehe
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| mzapanta | Date: Saturday, 22/11/2008, 9:18:31 PM | Message # 73 |
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| i don't think we are arguing about faith (?) hehe.. "doubts make ur belief genuine.."
hm..
i don't think so. this is the very thing that made me denounce religion. i just couldn't believe it.
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| mint18_angel | Date: Saturday, 22/11/2008, 10:38:45 PM | Message # 74 |
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| i agree with u chelle... i dont think "doubts make ur belief genuine", how can it be genuine if ur giving that belief a benefit of a doubt... thats what trust is about, u are believing in something which u dont know if its true or not... if ur having a doubt on that belief it means u dont trust that belief.. u dont trust their practices and everything and if u dont trust on that belief u dont have faith on it....
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| remive4u | Date: Saturday, 22/11/2008, 10:59:39 PM | Message # 75 |
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| hehe...
belief without doubt is pretty much false and downright nonsensical...
it's being blind, deaf, mute, and all else, wen u totally give into ur belief...
even mother teresa, at one of her journals..
before dying, she wrote..
"there was no day that i ddnt doubt u..and coz of this doubt, i hav found myself believing in u more.."
tungod man gud sa duda natoh, we will find the courage to search for answrs..
wat rly was,rly is,and rly will be...
if we hav doubts, we are not afraid to go pass our comfort zones...
i think that is what it rly means to be faithful...not being afraid to ask questions, dispruving&pruving ur faith...
we'll never find the answers, if we are afraid to even start questioning...
so...
doubts, make ur faith genuine...
not coz, ur in doubt, but coz, u r not afraid to ask questions, and u kip an open mind...
win-win situation...
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| mint18_angel | Date: Saturday, 22/11/2008, 11:19:52 PM | Message # 76 |
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| well agree ko ana sa imong gi post rey.. makaingon jud ko og win-win na situation....
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| mzapanta | Date: Sunday, 23/11/2008, 3:56:32 PM | Message # 77 |
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| ayay hapit na ko mo give-in dah haha. siguro mas ganahan lang ko sa phrase nga "belief" with an open mind.. maka-attest man ko ani.
kay kung muingon ta og "doubtful belief" pariha raman ni sa "questionable" "undecided" "problematic"..
siguro kung sa uyab2x pa ni or sa marriage, mahitabo jud ni. ing-ani na jud ni. kay tao ra gud, masayop ra pud. mu-trust lang ka sa imo partner kay there is such thing as love man. (at least for me) pero kung kay God naman gani, lisod kaayo mag-doubtful ta, kay metaphysical man ni. like dili ma-gauge sa human mind.
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| remive4u | Date: Sunday, 23/11/2008, 4:35:08 PM | Message # 78 |
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| kng di ka modoubt, meaning whole-heartedly tuo jud ka, dba?..
which is not in any sense possible...
katoh ra cgwo mga extremists maoy totally conform sa ila beliefs...
i think even God givs credit to those who shows vulnerability..
and being in doubt, shows vulnerability...
and being in doubt, doesn't essentially attests to having full of doubts..
u hav doubts, but not full of them..just some questions needing some answers...hehe
u dnt doubt ur faith, u doubt wat the object of your faith is...
u dnt question the existence of a metaphysical God, u question how he came to be... Quote pero kung kay God naman gani, lisod kaayo mag-doubtful ta, kay metaphysical man ni. like dili ma-gauge sa human mind
so if we say di xa ma-gauge sa mind, in some sense, mgdoubt jud ta if evr He rly existed dba?..
if we are trying to measure our faith in such, meaning we hav some sort of mindset that maybe it will end somewhere,dba?..
mura ra pod gud na ug sa marriage/uyab2..hehe
u trust ur partner, but that doesn't mean u won't ask wat he/she is doing, what he/she is up to, where he/she is at..
u love him/her, but that doesn't mean u love evrything about him/her right?..
there are things u hate about him/her, u question if it is for the better of ur relationship...
u talk to her bout that sort of issues, then u end up agreeing to a truce that he/she will try to change..
or....
u both agreed to accept it as it is, and liv with it... 
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| mzapanta | Date: Sunday, 23/11/2008, 5:01:12 PM | Message # 79 |
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| Quote (remive4u) mgdoubt jud ta if evr He rly existed dba?.. i don't. as far as i'm concerned, hehe. hehe, question nalang.. is their a "doubtful belief" nga ni-last? for example?
kay i think it reaches a certain point.
murag ako, i believed in Catholicism kay mao may gi-impose. kay recipient raman ko, naa jud doubts. so eventually.. wagtang rapud to nga belief pag-abot sa kato nga certain point.
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| remive4u | Date: Tuesday, 25/11/2008, 11:42:56 AM | Message # 80 |
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| di cgwo doubtful belief ang term uie..
let's put it as a doubting belief..hehe
evrything reaches to a certain point, not only doubts...
evn faith...
ang nkadownfall anang sobra ra kau ka kafaithful gud..
ky evrything happening to you is being attributed to something else...
mahagbong ka, imo i-attribute ky gigabaan ka ky wa ka nirespeto sa imong parents..[sample ra ah..hehe]
mkapasar ka, imo i-attribute ky gitabangan ka ni God..
isn't that a downgrading of ur capacity to achieve something on ur own?..
nya i think doubting pod is like a filter...
mastraing ang faithful,quasiafaithful,wannabefaithfuls..
wa ko niquestion ah, if wa jud ka ngdoubt or sumthing...
ako lng nasabtan ba..ky it's either u hav had or hav doubts..
or...
u r afraid to doubt...
mura ra gud na ug room setting...nglibog ka..or..kbw ka gmay, pwo hadlok ka mgpaclarify... Quote is their a "doubtful belief" nga ni-last? for example?
i think Mother Teresa was in doubt...mao man iya gisuwat sa iyang journal..hehe
ako pod..
i hav doubts regarding my belief...
but not regarding my faith...di ko hadlok moquestion...
mao kontrahan jud ko sa mga teacher nko sa re-ed sa usc..hehe
dghan na kau clang ibato ug mga scriptures sa bible..
wen gisultian na nko cla na duda pod ko sa credibility sa bible...mao japon ila gibuhat...
ako man gud mindset is..
if you don't ask God...wud He answer??..
kng di ka mangutana kng naa ba xa dha...
motubag kha xa na naa ko dre?..hehe
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