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welbertDate: Saturday, 22/11/2008, 9:44:20 PM | Message # 21
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bitaw.... wat f mag-tipon lang dn same as family????

i think la cla ni against sa church.. kay la man pud cla na kasal... sakto ba???


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mzapantaDate: Saturday, 22/11/2008, 9:46:03 PM | Message # 22
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hm.. if homosexual ko.. maka-empathize ko og maayo.
but putting myself in their shoes..

lahi baya pud if you believe in something so much but you're compelled to hide it kay you are branded by society man..
if i was homosexual and i have the same rights as the heteros, i wouldn't feel so bad.. i wouldn't feel so much of a freak against the discriminating majority.

if i was homo, i think i just want to belong to society.. and society baya is bound by law. mao na fight pud ko sa ako rights to belong. ^^

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remive4uDate: Sunday, 23/11/2008, 0:07:03 AM | Message # 23
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bein different rly has its tolls man...
but bare in mind, na dli tanan modiscriminate nmo...
with all said...
u can nevr rly hav evrything..
dat is fact...
pde man mo mg-liv.in ba...
but marrying through an institution that is totally agenst such practice..
is rly going beyond the limits...
they knw too well gud na agenst jud ang church ana..
y coerce them?..if this is a place wen 1 cnt force the other...
so much has changed na btw sa church..
b4 gud, they say that homos goes straight to hell...
and now they're taking it back...
and now...the homos wants more...
they want to be married in church... wacko
we can nvr rly hav it all...


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mzapantaDate: Sunday, 23/11/2008, 0:28:57 AM | Message # 24
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aw kana.. homos wed in church.. bisan unsa na angle, ridiculous jud ni tan-awn. di sugot ang simbahan ani.

basic unit of society lang siguro ang gipangita sa homosexuals, like everyone else.. and by law, to start a family, dapat mag-marry.
mas okay man pud kung kasal, sayon ra mu-travel2x together, savings (like joint account).. security pud kay minyo naman mo, lisod na mangilog ang uban.

then akong pinaka-paborito.. mas gamay imong tax kung married imo status.
kapisti aning single ta oy, hangtod langit akong tax.

 
remive4uDate: Sunday, 23/11/2008, 1:07:34 AM | Message # 25
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theyre oredy part of society btw..hehe
nya i think mas dako pod ma-save kng single..hehe
ani nlng lge...
no one is prohibiting them btw to act lyk wed couples dba?..
they can always become couples without the actual marriage ceremony..
ky marriage itself is an essential component of christianity...
holy mana na sacrament pwa nla...
so big no-no jud ang pg-enter ana...


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mzapantaDate: Sunday, 23/11/2008, 3:42:25 PM | Message # 26
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pero daghan kaayo mu-discrimiate..
if mu-start og recognize ang law sa kani nga nonconventional couple, ma-eradicate ang descrimination.
mahog ra pud ni og sexism.
lain pud kaayo abi kay you are different you are worse than the "normal" ones. ana diay na.
since gi-accept naman nga ni-exist jud ang homosexuals, they should be able to live without being judge.
marriage i think is their ultimate way of "coming out" ba. that they don't have to be in the closets.

hehe. peace rey.

 
remive4uDate: Sunday, 23/11/2008, 4:48:45 PM | Message # 27
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they oredy came out btw..hehe
and i think giving them rights to marry won't end the discrimination...
downright, it might even add to it...
nya bout sa issue about treating homos are worse than normal ones...
i think this is already a personal issue from some people...
come to think of it...di man jud ta ka-please sa tann...
some may like us, some may hate us, hell, some may even discriminate us...
but if you see the glass as half full...
u will see that they cant do anything about it...
it's either they live with it, or die trying to pull u down...
it's pretty obvious that being a homosexual is different from the conventional genders...
but that doesn't mean na u are different, that u dnt belong...
and if u look at the greater scheme of life...all of us are different btw...
they were just "gifted" to have their difference so conspicuous...
sa same-sex marriage issue...
some day it might happen, and it might not..
but...discrimination is something we cnt phase out, no matter wat..
not until obnoxious people disappear...we cnt change the mindset of people hu views homosexuality as a curse rather than normality...
so..
agenst jud ko ani...ky literally it wont bring about change...
just another proposition where church&state would engage in word wars... smile


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Message edited by remive4u - Sunday, 23/11/2008, 4:49:30 PM
 
mzapantaDate: Sunday, 23/11/2008, 5:13:11 PM | Message # 28
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it's either they live with it, or die trying to pull u down...

ayaw pud.. hehe. i kinda like them homos. feel nako boring ang society without them. (for me lang)
sa mga discriminator, ila na pud nang issue, concern lang ko sa welfare sa third sex.
ang akong nahan lang kay at least happy and content pud ang homos sa society they live in.
i'm not advocating. kay kung ako ang lezbo, i wouldn't marry.
karon i think nahan lang sila stability, financial strength and lifetime commitment. and lisod ni i-achieve without marriage.
so if nahan sila magpakasal, i'm indifferent, i won't oppose. but i won't advocate at all.

i do think you're right though. ^^

 
paingDate: Sunday, 23/11/2008, 5:47:07 PM | Message # 29
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WAAAA MO COMMENT KO... EHEHEH...

OK RAMAN NAKO ANG SAME SEX... IF OK RASAD NA SA ATONG GOBERNO... IF OK... OK... PERO ABOUT SA MGA MAG DISCRIMINATE... NSA MAN LABOT NILA IF MU DISCRIMINATE NAH SILA... MAY SILA ANG AKONG PAKASLAN (FOR EXAMPLE)... I DONT CARE NSA ILA GIBATI THE IMPORTANT IS... NI TAKE KO OG VOW TO WHOM I LOVE WITH KUNG BOY TO BOY BANAH OR GIRL TO GIRL...

SAKTO SAD THAT YOU CANT PLEASE EVERY ONE... BUT IF YOU REALLY LOVE A PERSON YOU FIGHT FOR IT NO MATTER WHAT...

WAAAA NAKA POST LAGI KO.... EHEHEH...



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mzapantaDate: Sunday, 23/11/2008, 6:14:46 PM | Message # 30
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yeah hehehe. kuan lang siguro nahan sila ipakita sa community nga they can now be a family. a legal unit with a set of rights and responsibilities.. and that unity should be respected.

pero again, i don't encourage this.

 
tonetDate: Monday, 24/11/2008, 9:51:07 AM | Message # 31
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gnhn ra sila mu gain ug respect from the community...the majority...
ok rana nku...hmmm
di ko ganhn mupugong sa ila ganahn mahitabo...

wa nku lain masulti kay wa ko kbw sa inyu mga gipangstoryaan kapoi basa, taas na kau mug mga gipangsulti gd...hehehhehe

 
paingDate: Monday, 24/11/2008, 10:51:41 AM | Message # 32
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AKO SAD KAPOI SAD BASA... TAAS NA AU... NYA ENGLISH PA GYUD... DLI KO KASABOT... HAHAHAH...


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johanna_menDate: Tuesday, 25/11/2008, 1:38:27 AM | Message # 33
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well regarding ani na issue.. bisag asa ka na angle mu tan-aw, bizarre man jud cya..
living together is enough na man oi.. simang na man gani kaayu nang ilang type sa relationship..
if they want to show the community that they can now be a family, then let me remind them na
a family consists a father(male), mother(female) and a child(offspring).. how are you going to consider a
a pair of both sex living together as a couple a family..? let's say mang adopt cla para ma kumpleto ilang
jigsaw puzzle so called family.. di cla mag huna-huna sa future sa bata na mag dako sa ingun ana na environment.. the
humiliation and the bizarre up bringing of the child.. kung joint account or whatever benefits man gani, naa
man daghan options para maka avail aside sa marriage.. marriage (civil or church) is the sacred union of man and woman..
dili union of man and woman-half-man.. sa-onz...


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remive4uDate: Tuesday, 25/11/2008, 11:18:27 AM | Message # 34
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ako agenst jud ko..hehe
they can always make a vow btw, between both of them..
or maybe evn with their closest friends...
i dnt agree jud of letting them marry sa church..
ky agenst man jud ang church ana..
sa civil pod..
agenst pod ang gobyerno ana..
if they will implement it, murag hypocritical na kaau...
doing sumthing that is already forbidden...
it's like breaking the law...
i do think pod na being a family unit,
is somewhat personal na...if u treat sum1 a family of urs..
then u're family...it's not lyk anyone can do anything about it...
about sa discrimination...
di njud na mwla...i think..
and if so mwla na xa...i dnt knw wat has happened sa kalibutan ana tyma...
mao btw gibasura jud ni sa california ang same-sex marriage..hehe
bg-o lng...


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cyraDate: Saturday, 29/11/2008, 11:41:36 PM | Message # 35
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being a democratic country..

for me its okay..

as common cliche.. Dont judge a book if ur not a judge..

naay diay mo mabuhat if mao na ila nahan..

mybe living together is enough pero like everyone of us normal partners like..

they also want to have sacred marriage...though we knw its not sacred.. pero ang point lang bah.. naay silay freewill bah..

i think its better that we give them some consideration..

Expect the unexpected guyz...!


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mzapantaDate: Sunday, 30/11/2008, 5:55:26 AM | Message # 36
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pero ang point lang bah.. naay silay freewill bah..

hm.. bisan dili ko ganahan mu-angkon, maka-agree man ko nimo cy. ahak oy.
OT
okay ra if totolan sila or dili mu-end ang discrimination against them.
at least ni effort sila.
at least ni express sila sa ila side.
same sex marriage is not necessary man jud, but then you get to see them being true to themselves.

 
remive4uDate: Sunday, 30/11/2008, 9:02:33 PM | Message # 37
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democracy man pod has its limits...
imagine lng gud if democracy has no bounds...
chaotic kau...
nya evn tho they hav the right to express their sides...
it's the constitution that's already stating the limits...
the constitution is the basic law of the land..
if u go agenst it, then u go agenst the grain that's evn making our country democratic...
if they evr marry, it's like moving 1step forward, then 2steps back...


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mzapantaDate: Monday, 01/12/2008, 1:26:26 PM | Message # 38
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A helpful pie chart demonstrating the pros and cons of letting other people get married.



Message edited by mzapanta - Monday, 01/12/2008, 1:28:21 PM
 
paingDate: Monday, 01/12/2008, 1:36:45 PM | Message # 39
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NSA MAN MEANING ANIH MECHELLE??? EDUCATE MI.... EHEHEH....


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kalpotDate: Monday, 01/12/2008, 3:54:52 PM | Message # 40
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me also... happy

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